# subscriptions.ltv-cac The three unit-economics figures SaaS investors ask for, from four inputs: LTV = ARPA x gross margin / monthly customer churn LTV : CAC = LTV / CAC CAC payback = CAC / (ARPA x gross margin) in months LTV is ChartMogul's published formula ("LTV = ARPA x Gross Margin / Customer Churn Rate"): a customer who pays ARPA a month and churns with probability c each month stays 1/c months on average, and only the gross margin of what they pay is value. CAC payback is the usual gross-margin-adjusted form: how many months of margin it takes to earn back what it cost to win the customer. With ARPA 100.00, an 80% margin, 2.5% monthly churn and CAC 1,200.00, LTV is 3,200.00, the ratio is 2.67x and payback is 15 months. Rounding. Each figure is one exact integer division from the inputs, never built from another rounded figure: LTV is rounded half-up to the minor unit, the ratio half-up to a basis point (30000 is 3x, the common target), and payback is rounded up to whole months, because a customer who has paid back 12.5 months of CAC has not paid it back after 12. Zeroes are answers, not errors. With no churn the simple formula has no finite lifetime, so LTV and the ratio are null; with no CAC the ratio is null and payback is 0 months; with no margin (or no revenue) payback is null, because it never happens. The formula assumes churn is constant over a customer's life, which in practice overstates LTV: churn is usually highest in the first months. Use monthly figures for all three rates; for annual churn, convert first. Errors: a negative ARPA or CAC, rates outside 0 to 10000, amounts in different currencies, and inputs so large the intermediate products leave the exact integer range (2^53 - 1) that all three languages share. Sources: ChartMogul, "Customer Lifetime Value (LTV)", https://chartmogul.com/saas-metrics/ltv/ (formula and LTV:CAC ratio).